Comments on: (5) Virgin’s Diary: The Immigrant Seducer-Thief-Rapist http://www.deepgenre.com/wordpress/constanceash/reviews-and-criticism/5-virgins-diary-the-immigrant-seducer-thief-rapist Writing and Reading. Commerce and Art. Fantasy and Science Fiction. Discuss. Fri, 21 Nov 2008 21:06:19 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: DeepGenre » (2) Virgin’s Diary: Form as Gender Destiny Correlative http://www.deepgenre.com/wordpress/constanceash/reviews-and-criticism/5-virgins-diary-the-immigrant-seducer-thief-rapist#comment-909 DeepGenre » (2) Virgin’s Diary: Form as Gender Destiny Correlative Sun, 16 Jul 2006 19:24:14 +0000 http://www.deepgenre.com/wordpress/constanceash/misc/5-virgins-diary-the-immigrant-seducer-thief-rapist#comment-909 [...] Posted in Reviews and Criticism at 1:08 pm By Constance Ash Related Posts: (1) Dracula: Pages From A Virgin’s Diary (2003): | View 2: “Deep Genre” & “Genre” | (5) Virgin’s Diary: The Immigrant Seducer-Thief-Rapist |  [...] [...] Posted in Reviews and Criticism at 1:08 pm By Constance Ash Related Posts: (1) Dracula: Pages From A Virgin’s Diary (2003): | View 2: “Deep Genre” & “Genre” | (5) Virgin’s Diary: The Immigrant Seducer-Thief-Rapist |  [...]

]]> By: DeepGenre » (4) Virgin’s Diary: Mina the Authentic Virgin http://www.deepgenre.com/wordpress/constanceash/reviews-and-criticism/5-virgins-diary-the-immigrant-seducer-thief-rapist#comment-844 DeepGenre » (4) Virgin’s Diary: Mina the Authentic Virgin Thu, 13 Jul 2006 21:30:45 +0000 http://www.deepgenre.com/wordpress/constanceash/misc/5-virgins-diary-the-immigrant-seducer-thief-rapist#comment-844 [...] Deep Genre; Introduction; Part 1; Part 2; Part 3; Part 5; Part 6; [...] [...] Deep Genre; Introduction; Part 1; Part 2; Part 3; Part 5; Part 6; [...]

]]> By: Constance Ash http://www.deepgenre.com/wordpress/constanceash/reviews-and-criticism/5-virgins-diary-the-immigrant-seducer-thief-rapist#comment-796 Constance Ash Tue, 11 Jul 2006 01:19:32 +0000 http://www.deepgenre.com/wordpress/constanceash/misc/5-virgins-diary-the-immigrant-seducer-thief-rapist#comment-796 Which 'this,' Lois? I hope I'm not confusing evolution and development with 'progress,' for I surely do not see it that way. My goal is to look at what is going on, not to make judgments of right or wrong about it. Though, True Confessions Time again -- vampires as sexy lovers have truly gotten out of hand in the minds of So Many! Which is why I kinda cheered at the sucking slurps of the truly clueless in <em>Buffy</em>, Season 2, when the vamp wannabe kids called them "the Lonely Ones," and dreamed of being taken and becoming One With Them. Course Our Slayer in Sunnydale managed to get most of 'em outta the Factory before Spike and Undead cronies got to slurp much. You have to give <em>Buffy</em> this credit: any time you see vamps feeding it is anything but sexy or romantic -- it is gruesome and gross and, yes, horrible. I'm eager to get started posting on the Buff, but I'm running behind, due to several circumstances beyond my control. Love, C. Which ‘this,’ Lois?

I hope I’m not confusing evolution and development with ‘progress,’ for I surely do not see it that way.

My goal is to look at what is going on, not to make judgments of right or wrong about it.

Though, True Confessions Time again — vampires as sexy lovers have truly gotten out of hand in the minds of So Many! Which is why I kinda cheered at the sucking slurps of the truly clueless in Buffy, Season 2, when the vamp wannabe kids called them “the Lonely Ones,” and dreamed of being taken and becoming One With Them.

Course Our Slayer in Sunnydale managed to get most of ‘em outta the Factory before Spike and Undead cronies got to slurp much.

You have to give Buffy this credit: any time you see vamps feeding it is anything but sexy or romantic — it is gruesome and gross and, yes, horrible.

I’m eager to get started posting on the Buff, but I’m running behind, due to several circumstances beyond my control.

Love, C.

]]> By: Lois Tilton http://www.deepgenre.com/wordpress/constanceash/reviews-and-criticism/5-virgins-diary-the-immigrant-seducer-thief-rapist#comment-634 Lois Tilton Wed, 05 Jul 2006 01:06:26 +0000 http://www.deepgenre.com/wordpress/constanceash/misc/5-virgins-diary-the-immigrant-seducer-thief-rapist#comment-634 I would not call this "progress." I would not call this “progress.”

]]> By: Constance Ash http://www.deepgenre.com/wordpress/constanceash/reviews-and-criticism/5-virgins-diary-the-immigrant-seducer-thief-rapist#comment-633 Constance Ash Tue, 04 Jul 2006 23:41:55 +0000 http://www.deepgenre.com/wordpress/constanceash/misc/5-virgins-diary-the-immigrant-seducer-thief-rapist#comment-633 Hopefully I shall be able to answer this when I begin the <em>Buffy</em> postings. I have been thinking about this! I wanted to finish re-viewing season 4 though, before I started posting about this influential series. I've taken some extensive notes whilst re-viewing seasons 1, 2, 3. Season 4 is a big change in the show, and not only because they aren't in h.s. now. It's how Buffy herself is being treated. Henry Connolly asked whether vampires are more considered the sexy anti-hero types now, rather than the predator they used to be. The sensitive vampire, sad for his fate, and the glam vamp are both very much creatures that emerge in the 20th C's 70's, <em>along</em> with the 'feminist' view of vamps, as Chelsea Quinn Yarbro's -- so much so that being a vamp plays very little role with her hero. His function is to show the ever-recurring evil & cruelty of <em>humanity</em> through history, with this cruelty most punished upon women. But now we've got to get outta dodge to the burbs for a musicians' 4th: a cookout, of course, but the making music with friends in lieu of fireworks. Love, C. Hopefully I shall be able to answer this when I begin the Buffy postings. I have been thinking about this! I wanted to finish re-viewing season 4 though, before I started posting about this influential series. I’ve taken some extensive notes whilst re-viewing seasons 1, 2, 3. Season 4 is a big change in the show, and not only because they aren’t in h.s. now. It’s how Buffy herself is being treated.

Henry Connolly asked whether vampires are more considered the sexy anti-hero types now, rather than the predator they used to be. The sensitive vampire, sad for his fate, and the glam vamp are both very much creatures that emerge in the 20th C’s 70’s, along with the ‘feminist’ view of vamps, as Chelsea Quinn Yarbro’s — so much so that being a vamp plays very little role with her hero. His function is to show the ever-recurring evil & cruelty of humanity through history, with this cruelty most punished upon women.

But now we’ve got to get outta dodge to the burbs for a musicians’ 4th: a cookout, of course, but the making music with friends in lieu of fireworks.

Love, C.

]]> By: Harry Connolly http://www.deepgenre.com/wordpress/constanceash/reviews-and-criticism/5-virgins-diary-the-immigrant-seducer-thief-rapist#comment-610 Harry Connolly Mon, 03 Jul 2006 22:31:59 +0000 http://www.deepgenre.com/wordpress/constanceash/misc/5-virgins-diary-the-immigrant-seducer-thief-rapist#comment-610 Okay, this is an actual comment, hopefully with some substance. Haven't vampires changed to the point where they are now the sexy anti-heroes, rather than despoilers? I guess you could say this is the benefits of 100 plus years of progress. The women men used to fear would be taken away from them no longer wants their protection. In fact, their protection is an unwelcome intrusion. I guess the reason vampires have never appealed to me is that I've never thought they were sexy. Okay, this is an actual comment, hopefully with some substance.

Haven’t vampires changed to the point where they are now the sexy anti-heroes, rather than despoilers?

I guess you could say this is the benefits of 100 plus years of progress. The women men used to fear would be taken away from them no longer wants their protection. In fact, their protection is an unwelcome intrusion.

I guess the reason vampires have never appealed to me is that I’ve never thought they were sexy.

]]> By: Harry Connolly http://www.deepgenre.com/wordpress/constanceash/reviews-and-criticism/5-virgins-diary-the-immigrant-seducer-thief-rapist#comment-603 Harry Connolly Mon, 03 Jul 2006 19:03:09 +0000 http://www.deepgenre.com/wordpress/constanceash/misc/5-virgins-diary-the-immigrant-seducer-thief-rapist#comment-603 Thank you. Those are wonderful Thank you. Those are wonderful

]]> By: Kate Elliott http://www.deepgenre.com/wordpress/constanceash/reviews-and-criticism/5-virgins-diary-the-immigrant-seducer-thief-rapist#comment-593 Kate Elliott Mon, 03 Jul 2006 09:46:53 +0000 http://www.deepgenre.com/wordpress/constanceash/misc/5-virgins-diary-the-immigrant-seducer-thief-rapist#comment-593 And my question: if vampirism isn't about women but about men, then is Buffy re-envisioning the story to be about women? or? Particularly in light of your comment in an earlier installment that in Buffy sex turns men into monsters. And my question: if vampirism isn’t about women but about men, then is Buffy re-envisioning the story to be about women? or?

Particularly in light of your comment in an earlier installment that in Buffy sex turns men into monsters.

]]> By: Kate Elliott http://www.deepgenre.com/wordpress/constanceash/reviews-and-criticism/5-virgins-diary-the-immigrant-seducer-thief-rapist#comment-592 Kate Elliott Mon, 03 Jul 2006 09:44:46 +0000 http://www.deepgenre.com/wordpress/constanceash/misc/5-virgins-diary-the-immigrant-seducer-thief-rapist#comment-592 Thank you, Constance. Thank you, Constance.

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