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		<title>By: Constance Ash</title>
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		<dc:creator>Constance Ash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 21:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t mind waiting.  I prefer to have an entire series before embarking upon it.

Otherwise I get bored during the wait times, and I miss the full impact of what&#039;s really going on.

Love, C.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t mind waiting.  I prefer to have an entire series before embarking upon it.</p>
<p>Otherwise I get bored during the wait times, and I miss the full impact of what&#8217;s really going on.</p>
<p>Love, C.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Phillips</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 23:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it appears that you can still order all of them straight from Things From Another World which appears to be Dark Horse&#039;s preferred net shop. . I&#039;m not really a big time buyer of comics either. I&#039;ve got about a dozen comics (50/50 US/Japanese) that I want to get complete sets of either the comic books or the collections.

*chuckles* Of course, if you don&#039;t mind waiting, the collections can also be ordered from your friendly local book seller (my preferred route for most of this stuff. It takes longer than Barnes and Nobles or Amazon, but any FLBS who will take my orders without snarking at me? They are friendly enough to deserve my business.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it appears that you can still order all of them straight from Things From Another World which appears to be Dark Horse&#8217;s preferred net shop. . I&#8217;m not really a big time buyer of comics either. I&#8217;ve got about a dozen comics (50/50 US/Japanese) that I want to get complete sets of either the comic books or the collections.</p>
<p>*chuckles* Of course, if you don&#8217;t mind waiting, the collections can also be ordered from your friendly local book seller (my preferred route for most of this stuff. It takes longer than Barnes and Nobles or Amazon, but any FLBS who will take my orders without snarking at me? They are friendly enough to deserve my business.)</p>
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		<title>By: Constance Ash</title>
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		<dc:creator>Constance Ash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 20:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terrific!  You knew exactly what you were doing.

Your tips are excellent, but as I&#039;m not what you&#039;d call a comix consumer, therefore not a customer, that probably won&#039;t work in this market where people are so frenzied that I can&#039;t even get to the racks to just browse, so many are the customers at any old time of the day, the week, the month.

And I&#039;m not an e-bay person either.

So I depend on serendipity, I guess.

Love, C.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terrific!  You knew exactly what you were doing.</p>
<p>Your tips are excellent, but as I&#8217;m not what you&#8217;d call a comix consumer, therefore not a customer, that probably won&#8217;t work in this market where people are so frenzied that I can&#8217;t even get to the racks to just browse, so many are the customers at any old time of the day, the week, the month.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m not an e-bay person either.</p>
<p>So I depend on serendipity, I guess.</p>
<p>Love, C.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Phillips</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 01:31:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I meant to post here. I&#039;d not yet read the book that today&#039;s post was about. One of the best parts about the web is its timelessness. I had something to say on this subject and I&#039;m probably not the last person who will see this particular thread. I get two to three comments a year on old threads in my own (very low traffic) blog, and I&#039;ve taken part in years old conversations elsewhere where people check in every month or two to see if anything interesting has been said.

There&#039;s a couple routes to getting comics like this one. My local friendly comic book store (and they are actually quite friendly.) Actually still has copies of all 12 issues. Dark Horse seems to be printing compiled editions for each set of five books (one 4 part plus a stand alone I suspect.) As with any well loved setting with a large fan base, I also suspect that about 5 minutes with google on a non-dialup connection would find a torrent of whatever format the fans have scanned these books into (usually pdf or jpg.) Then there&#039;s Amazon and Ebay, both of which frequently have sellers offering most any comic book you are looking for. (That&#039;s actually how I generally got comics I was interested in when I lived in rural Indiana.)

I&#039;m probably going to start putting the Buffy trades on my library purchase request list, not because I don&#039;t own them, but so that other people will be more likely to find them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I meant to post here. I&#8217;d not yet read the book that today&#8217;s post was about. One of the best parts about the web is its timelessness. I had something to say on this subject and I&#8217;m probably not the last person who will see this particular thread. I get two to three comments a year on old threads in my own (very low traffic) blog, and I&#8217;ve taken part in years old conversations elsewhere where people check in every month or two to see if anything interesting has been said.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a couple routes to getting comics like this one. My local friendly comic book store (and they are actually quite friendly.) Actually still has copies of all 12 issues. Dark Horse seems to be printing compiled editions for each set of five books (one 4 part plus a stand alone I suspect.) As with any well loved setting with a large fan base, I also suspect that about 5 minutes with google on a non-dialup connection would find a torrent of whatever format the fans have scanned these books into (usually pdf or jpg.) Then there&#8217;s Amazon and Ebay, both of which frequently have sellers offering most any comic book you are looking for. (That&#8217;s actually how I generally got comics I was interested in when I lived in rural Indiana.)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m probably going to start putting the Buffy trades on my library purchase request list, not because I don&#8217;t own them, but so that other people will be more likely to find them.</p>
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		<title>By: Constance Ash</title>
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		<dc:creator>Constance Ash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 23:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Michael!

Are you sure you wanted to post to this old thread or to the new entry re Season 8 that I posted today?

There is nothing at all wrong with you posting here, not at all!

It&#039;s just that probably no one will see it because this is old -- I just saw it because we get auto notice of any comment that posts to our entries.

Your first time around the Buffy-verse ....  I&#039;ve done it 4 times now.  Maybe not any more.  And Season 8 has been beyond my possession.  I&#039;ve never figured out this comix buying thang, since I&#039;m not that much a fan.

There are some special ones that I can sometimes get complete runs of from the library when I find out they exist, so it&#039;s not as though I don&#039;t respect the form.

Love, C.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Michael!</p>
<p>Are you sure you wanted to post to this old thread or to the new entry re Season 8 that I posted today?</p>
<p>There is nothing at all wrong with you posting here, not at all!</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just that probably no one will see it because this is old &#8212; I just saw it because we get auto notice of any comment that posts to our entries.</p>
<p>Your first time around the Buffy-verse &#8230;.  I&#8217;ve done it 4 times now.  Maybe not any more.  And Season 8 has been beyond my possession.  I&#8217;ve never figured out this comix buying thang, since I&#8217;m not that much a fan.</p>
<p>There are some special ones that I can sometimes get complete runs of from the library when I find out they exist, so it&#8217;s not as though I don&#8217;t respect the form.</p>
<p>Love, C.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Phillips</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Phillips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 20:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just finished watching Buffy for the first time, and I&#039;m a guy who really liked seasons 5-7, with some caveats.
6 and 7 had some seriously clumsy writing in them.

I love the fall of Willow as documented through seasons 5 and 6, it felt entirely in character, even if it was really painful to watch her betraying Tara. Tara&#039;s death on the other hand, it was &lt;a href=&quot;http://ronin-kakuhito.livejournal.com/233070.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; very poorly done.  &lt;/a&gt;

Seven had some filler in it, which was especially unfortunate since the last 7 or so episodes felt very compressed to me. My biggest problem with 7 was the lead up to the end. We&#039;ve got a fair amount of betrayal without any confrontation, with minimal remorse, and without even a strong sense of &quot;We&#039;re going to deal with this when everything is done.&quot; (Which is supported by the season 8 comics. They really don&#039;t end up facing what they did to each other, at least not through issue 11.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://ronin-kakuhito.livejournal.com/233931.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;
More on the ending to 7 and why it wasn&#039;t the betrayal that bothered me, but the reactions to it. &lt;/a&gt;
I&#039;m not really sure that Willow deserves the &quot;Did I ever tell you about my best friend?&quot; line in issue 4.

I have noticed that Whedon does occasionally use singe note deaths in places where they are not effective story tools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just finished watching Buffy for the first time, and I&#8217;m a guy who really liked seasons 5-7, with some caveats.<br />
6 and 7 had some seriously clumsy writing in them.</p>
<p>I love the fall of Willow as documented through seasons 5 and 6, it felt entirely in character, even if it was really painful to watch her betraying Tara. Tara&#8217;s death on the other hand, it was <a href="http://ronin-kakuhito.livejournal.com/233070.html" rel="nofollow"> very poorly done.  </a></p>
<p>Seven had some filler in it, which was especially unfortunate since the last 7 or so episodes felt very compressed to me. My biggest problem with 7 was the lead up to the end. We&#8217;ve got a fair amount of betrayal without any confrontation, with minimal remorse, and without even a strong sense of &#8220;We&#8217;re going to deal with this when everything is done.&#8221; (Which is supported by the season 8 comics. They really don&#8217;t end up facing what they did to each other, at least not through issue 11.<br />
<a href="http://ronin-kakuhito.livejournal.com/233931.html" rel="nofollow"><br />
More on the ending to 7 and why it wasn&#8217;t the betrayal that bothered me, but the reactions to it. </a><br />
I&#8217;m not really sure that Willow deserves the &#8220;Did I ever tell you about my best friend?&#8221; line in issue 4.</p>
<p>I have noticed that Whedon does occasionally use singe note deaths in places where they are not effective story tools.</p>
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		<title>By: Constance Ash</title>
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		<dc:creator>Constance Ash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 14:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was a great deal of set-up for Joyce&#039;s illness, starting in Season 4.  Mentions of headaches and so on.  Subtle, which I didn&#039;t retain upon first viewing, which is natural with so very much going on.  Then the eps. of Joyce in the hospital.  There wasn&#039;t an episode of season 5 that didn&#039;t deal with Joyce in one way or another, and her illness.

And Dawn, and the additional complications of having this additional member of the family, that wouldn&#039;t be there except under these super mystical circumstances.

Personally?  I suspect that Joyce&#039;s brain troubles came about with the massive alterations of a &lt;strong&gt;mother&#039;s&lt;/strong&gt; memories.  Joyce&#039;s brain death, so to speak, was just one part of the price paid by the Summers for the monks&#039; plan to keep Glory from getting back to her own universe and destroying all the dimensional boundaries between universes on the way.

I&#039;ve not see that suggested by anyone else though ....

My problem with all this, is if that order possessed that much power to so drastically, impeccably and meticulously change the reality of so very many people&#039;s memory and create such a whole human as Dawn, couldn&#039;t they have come up with another solution other than burdening poor over-burdened Buffy even more?

Yes, this was the season that Whedon and Co. decided the love interest had to be family -- and more adult responsibilities.

I resisted like crazy the first time around.  But now it feels so right.  And brilliant.

That others feel otherwise makes for horseraces and interesting dinner conversation.

Love, C.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was a great deal of set-up for Joyce&#8217;s illness, starting in Season 4.  Mentions of headaches and so on.  Subtle, which I didn&#8217;t retain upon first viewing, which is natural with so very much going on.  Then the eps. of Joyce in the hospital.  There wasn&#8217;t an episode of season 5 that didn&#8217;t deal with Joyce in one way or another, and her illness.</p>
<p>And Dawn, and the additional complications of having this additional member of the family, that wouldn&#8217;t be there except under these super mystical circumstances.</p>
<p>Personally?  I suspect that Joyce&#8217;s brain troubles came about with the massive alterations of a <strong>mother&#8217;s</strong> memories.  Joyce&#8217;s brain death, so to speak, was just one part of the price paid by the Summers for the monks&#8217; plan to keep Glory from getting back to her own universe and destroying all the dimensional boundaries between universes on the way.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve not see that suggested by anyone else though &#8230;.</p>
<p>My problem with all this, is if that order possessed that much power to so drastically, impeccably and meticulously change the reality of so very many people&#8217;s memory and create such a whole human as Dawn, couldn&#8217;t they have come up with another solution other than burdening poor over-burdened Buffy even more?</p>
<p>Yes, this was the season that Whedon and Co. decided the love interest had to be family &#8212; and more adult responsibilities.</p>
<p>I resisted like crazy the first time around.  But now it feels so right.  And brilliant.</p>
<p>That others feel otherwise makes for horseraces and interesting dinner conversation.</p>
<p>Love, C.</p>
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		<title>By: Mitch Wagner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mitch Wagner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Oct 2006 00:18:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nobody asked, but here&#039;s my two problems with &lt;em&gt;The Body:&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;Inadequate setup:&lt;/strong&gt; Yes, Joyce had battled cancer several episodes earlier, but as far as we knew she&#039;d beaten it. Joss should&#039;ve led into it; we should have seen Joyce failing over the course of several episodes, until finally she dies.

How long would it have taken to build up? Not long. I&#039;ve heard about people go from having no symptoms other than a persistent cough, to death, within six weeks.

Joss made the same mistake in &lt;em&gt;Serenity.&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;Reproduced the boring parts of the grieving process:&lt;/strong&gt; Everybody standing around shellshocked wondering what happened and what they&#039;re going to do next. Yes, that&#039;s realistic, but it doesn&#039;t make for compelling TV.

And, yes, I realize I&#039;m in a tiny minority among &lt;em&gt;Buffy&lt;/em&gt; fans for disliking that episode. And if anybody loved it, I hope they&#039;re not offended by my harsh remarks, this is entirely subjective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nobody asked, but here&#8217;s my two problems with <em>The Body:</em></p>
<p><strong>Inadequate setup:</strong> Yes, Joyce had battled cancer several episodes earlier, but as far as we knew she&#8217;d beaten it. Joss should&#8217;ve led into it; we should have seen Joyce failing over the course of several episodes, until finally she dies.</p>
<p>How long would it have taken to build up? Not long. I&#8217;ve heard about people go from having no symptoms other than a persistent cough, to death, within six weeks.</p>
<p>Joss made the same mistake in <em>Serenity.</em></p>
<p><strong>Reproduced the boring parts of the grieving process:</strong> Everybody standing around shellshocked wondering what happened and what they&#8217;re going to do next. Yes, that&#8217;s realistic, but it doesn&#8217;t make for compelling TV.</p>
<p>And, yes, I realize I&#8217;m in a tiny minority among <em>Buffy</em> fans for disliking that episode. And if anybody loved it, I hope they&#8217;re not offended by my harsh remarks, this is entirely subjective.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathleen Retterson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathleen Retterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Oct 2006 22:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have two words that will make all your problems disappear:  &quot;miniature golf.&quot;

I LOVE the Mayor; Groener clearly had fun playing that part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have two words that will make all your problems disappear:  &#8220;miniature golf.&#8221;</p>
<p>I LOVE the Mayor; Groener clearly had fun playing that part.</p>
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		<title>By: Constance Ash</title>
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		<dc:creator>Constance Ash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Oct 2006 22:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kathleen -- And the First comes to all the characters in these apparitions of the previous seasons&#039; Big Bads -- the Mayor to Faith, Warren to Willow, etc.  I thought that was pretty brilliant.

They all talked too long though.  The First really loved to hear itself go on and on.

Love, C.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathleen &#8212; And the First comes to all the characters in these apparitions of the previous seasons&#8217; Big Bads &#8212; the Mayor to Faith, Warren to Willow, etc.  I thought that was pretty brilliant.</p>
<p>They all talked too long though.  The First really loved to hear itself go on and on.</p>
<p>Love, C.</p>
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