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	<title>Comments on: Critique #152 &#8212; Charles E. Dunkley #2</title>
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		<title>By: Daniel Woods</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Woods</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 19:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To both Beth and Adam:

'lol' :p.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To both Beth and Adam:</p>
<p>&#8216;lol&#8217; :p.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendan Podger</title>
		<link>http://www.deepgenre.com/wordpress/damon-knight/critique-152#comment-34938</link>
		<dc:creator>Brendan Podger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 10:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First: The first line is a quote so quotation marks please.  After the mention of mum's words of wisdom I was looking for the quote and got confused for a moment not finding them.

I am going to disagree with the folk above about the commas.  The sentence is not a comma splice, it is a list(another acceptable usage for multiple commas).

The second para does need some work but I will leave it with you to decide how.  You should do something to link the images of "...their blind lives" and John's coming home though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First: The first line is a quote so quotation marks please.  After the mention of mum&#8217;s words of wisdom I was looking for the quote and got confused for a moment not finding them.</p>
<p>I am going to disagree with the folk above about the commas.  The sentence is not a comma splice, it is a list(another acceptable usage for multiple commas).</p>
<p>The second para does need some work but I will leave it with you to decide how.  You should do something to link the images of &#8220;&#8230;their blind lives&#8221; and John&#8217;s coming home though.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://www.deepgenre.com/wordpress/damon-knight/critique-152#comment-34921</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 06:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry,

I actually meant to put the comma there as well as the 'and'. I had already posted twice in a row when I noticed my error, and thought I had best shut up!

So, Daniel, yes, that is what I meant!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry,</p>
<p>I actually meant to put the comma there as well as the &#8216;and&#8217;. I had already posted twice in a row when I noticed my error, and thought I had best shut up!</p>
<p>So, Daniel, yes, that is what I meant!</p>
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		<title>By: Beth S.</title>
		<link>http://www.deepgenre.com/wordpress/damon-knight/critique-152#comment-34901</link>
		<dc:creator>Beth S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 02:25:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, Daniel. There have been bloody wars fought over whether to put in that final comma. 

It depends on your generation. Me, I like it, because it's consistent and symmetrical. And besides, I was taught to put it in. Old habits die hard. (Though I did manage to train myself to stop putting two spaces after a period.)

Later, the fashion changed and everyone was told to leave the comma out unless necessary for clarity. Then it came back into style and out yet again...which may be where it currently stands. I'm not sure.

I say, bah humbug and a plague on both houses...and I always put that comma in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, Daniel. There have been bloody wars fought over whether to put in that final comma. </p>
<p>It depends on your generation. Me, I like it, because it&#8217;s consistent and symmetrical. And besides, I was taught to put it in. Old habits die hard. (Though I did manage to train myself to stop putting two spaces after a period.)</p>
<p>Later, the fashion changed and everyone was told to leave the comma out unless necessary for clarity. Then it came back into style and out yet again&#8230;which may be where it currently stands. I&#8217;m not sure.</p>
<p>I say, bah humbug and a plague on both houses&#8230;and I always put that comma in.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Woods</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Woods</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 23:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you put an 'and' in there, don't you still need the comma? [i.e. Debbie's post in Kimberley King's #2 submission]

'Everywhere he went, men threw down their swords, mages cast away their staves&lt;strong&gt;,&lt;/strong&gt; and dragons knelt in awe.'

Help, please.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you put an &#8216;and&#8217; in there, don&#8217;t you still need the comma? [i.e. Debbie's post in Kimberley King's #2 submission]</p>
<p>&#8216;Everywhere he went, men threw down their swords, mages cast away their staves<strong>,</strong> and dragons knelt in awe.&#8217;</p>
<p>Help, please.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 22:43:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to quick on the post button:

...replace the last comma-splice with an â€˜andâ€™.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to quick on the post button:</p>
<p>&#8230;replace the last comma-splice with an â€˜andâ€™.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://www.deepgenre.com/wordpress/damon-knight/critique-152#comment-34881</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 22:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Everywhere he went, men threw down their swords, mages cast away their staves, dragons knelt in awe.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Just a preference but I think it adds to the rhythm of the sentence to replace the commas splice with an 'and'.

Everywhere he went, men threw down their swords, mages cast away their staves and dragons knelt in awe.</description>
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<p>Just a preference but I think it adds to the rhythm of the sentence to replace the commas splice with an &#8216;and&#8217;.</p>
<p>Everywhere he went, men threw down their swords, mages cast away their staves and dragons knelt in awe.</p>
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		<title>By: Beth S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beth S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 12:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Debbie, I agree with what you say in general practice, but in this particular instance, I'd had the same thought as Nicole about that sentence.

&lt;em&gt;Everywhere this man went, men threw down their swords, mages threw down their staves, dragons knelt in awe.&lt;/em&gt;

Yes, those are technically comma splices, but the sentence flows more smoothly with them. Using semi-colons there would give it a more staccato feel,IMO. 

(I would, however, do some other editing in that sentence; I think using "threw down" in the first two instances but not in the third sounds a little odd. Then there's "man" and "men," which are close enough together that they set up an almost-echo.)

&lt;em&gt;Everywhere he went, men threw down their swords, mages cast away their staves, dragons knelt in awe.&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Debbie, I agree with what you say in general practice, but in this particular instance, I&#8217;d had the same thought as Nicole about that sentence.</p>
<p><em>Everywhere this man went, men threw down their swords, mages threw down their staves, dragons knelt in awe.</em></p>
<p>Yes, those are technically comma splices, but the sentence flows more smoothly with them. Using semi-colons there would give it a more staccato feel,IMO. </p>
<p>(I would, however, do some other editing in that sentence; I think using &#8220;threw down&#8221; in the first two instances but not in the third sounds a little odd. Then there&#8217;s &#8220;man&#8221; and &#8220;men,&#8221; which are close enough together that they set up an almost-echo.)</p>
<p><em>Everywhere he went, men threw down their swords, mages cast away their staves, dragons knelt in awe.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Debbie White</title>
		<link>http://www.deepgenre.com/wordpress/damon-knight/critique-152#comment-34819</link>
		<dc:creator>Debbie White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 11:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;While not technically grammatically correct, some poetic license is allowed in prose. Once you know the rules of grammar, itâ€™s ok to break them, if and when you know exactly what you are doing and why.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes, Nicole L, but you want to pick and choose where you break the rules.  If you're not careful, you have every other sentence with grammar problems and people (i.e. editors) simply think that you don't know the proper grammar and dump the story.  Just a warning to go along with her advice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>While not technically grammatically correct, some poetic license is allowed in prose. Once you know the rules of grammar, itâ€™s ok to break them, if and when you know exactly what you are doing and why.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, Nicole L, but you want to pick and choose where you break the rules.  If you&#8217;re not careful, you have every other sentence with grammar problems and people (i.e. editors) simply think that you don&#8217;t know the proper grammar and dump the story.  Just a warning to go along with her advice.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 19:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for all of your input.  I really appreciate it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for all of your input.  I really appreciate it.</p>
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