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	<title>Comments on: Craft:  Openings (Part One, Begin as you mean to End)</title>
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		<title>By: Story Cookies, Part 2: Seeding the Beginning : Spontaneous Derivation</title>
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		<dc:creator>Story Cookies, Part 2: Seeding the Beginning : Spontaneous Derivation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 20:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Craft: Openings (Begin as you mean to end) by Kate Elliott [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Carol Berg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carol Berg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Sep 2006 05:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree wholeheartedly with balancing the tone of beginning and ending.  I heard that piece of advice before I published and it made SO much sense to me.

I have also heard "Begin at the point where everything changes" - which has worked very well for me --  as well as "Begin as close to the end of the story as you can" -- which presumes you know where the story ends, which is a lot harder.

To me, the most important thing about getting the opening scene right is establishing the POV character's voice.  That's what hooks me into a story.

Carol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree wholeheartedly with balancing the tone of beginning and ending.  I heard that piece of advice before I published and it made SO much sense to me.</p>
<p>I have also heard &#8220;Begin at the point where everything changes&#8221; - which has worked very well for me &#8212;  as well as &#8220;Begin as close to the end of the story as you can&#8221; &#8212; which presumes you know where the story ends, which is a lot harder.</p>
<p>To me, the most important thing about getting the opening scene right is establishing the POV character&#8217;s voice.  That&#8217;s what hooks me into a story.</p>
<p>Carol</p>
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		<title>By: kateelliott</title>
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		<dc:creator>kateelliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 23:57:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karey, I have teenagers, so my shock at being told I did something useful is overwhelming me!

But seriously, good luck.  I think one key to writing is learning to trust yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karey, I have teenagers, so my shock at being told I did something useful is overwhelming me!</p>
<p>But seriously, good luck.  I think one key to writing is learning to trust yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Karey Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karey Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 08:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kate,
You may not realize it, but your original post helped tremendously.  This manuscript is to be part of a series.  Who wants to go through the continued nightmare of slogging through an opening?  Your suggestion hit it right on.  You see, I'd rewritten numerous times, hit upon a beginning I could finally sit back and sigh with relief over, but it was a long painful journey.  Taking your suggestion, I now see, that's EXACTLY what I'd ended up with..a beginning that sets the tone for the story/end.  You just had the knack of putting it into words the rest of us could clutch rabidly and apply to our own writing.  So hats off!!  Now I feel every manuscript I begin, I'm more focused with HOW to come up with the opening.
You rock (can you tell I have a pre-teen?)
K</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kate,<br />
You may not realize it, but your original post helped tremendously.  This manuscript is to be part of a series.  Who wants to go through the continued nightmare of slogging through an opening?  Your suggestion hit it right on.  You see, I&#8217;d rewritten numerous times, hit upon a beginning I could finally sit back and sigh with relief over, but it was a long painful journey.  Taking your suggestion, I now see, that&#8217;s EXACTLY what I&#8217;d ended up with..a beginning that sets the tone for the story/end.  You just had the knack of putting it into words the rest of us could clutch rabidly and apply to our own writing.  So hats off!!  Now I feel every manuscript I begin, I&#8217;m more focused with HOW to come up with the opening.<br />
You rock (can you tell I have a pre-teen?)<br />
K</p>
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		<title>By: kateelliott</title>
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		<dc:creator>kateelliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 03:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karey,
since your manuscript is finished, I see you don't have the problem some writers seem to have of rewriting the first 50 pages incessently without going any farther into the story.  You sound a bit like me;  I rewrote the opening sequence to JARAN about ten times and I still am not satisfied with the opening as it stands in the published version.  At some point, I found, I had to let go.

My original post, I see now, really has to do with revision and not with where to start as a writer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karey,<br />
since your manuscript is finished, I see you don&#8217;t have the problem some writers seem to have of rewriting the first 50 pages incessently without going any farther into the story.  You sound a bit like me;  I rewrote the opening sequence to JARAN about ten times and I still am not satisfied with the opening as it stands in the published version.  At some point, I found, I had to let go.</p>
<p>My original post, I see now, really has to do with revision and not with where to start as a writer.</p>
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		<title>By: Karey Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karey Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 03:53:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Typed too quickly previous post..so sorry.  Blame coffee and pre-dawn (even entered wrong website).  End of post should have read not so nice 'hero', not 'here' (smack) and as for undertone needing to remain dark, that's how I decided where to begin--lethal beginning, a bit of humor, acquainting the reader with tone of story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Typed too quickly previous post..so sorry.  Blame coffee and pre-dawn (even entered wrong website).  End of post should have read not so nice &#8216;hero&#8217;, not &#8216;here&#8217; (smack) and as for undertone needing to remain dark, that&#8217;s how I decided where to begin&#8211;lethal beginning, a bit of humor, acquainting the reader with tone of story.</p>
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		<title>By: Karey Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karey Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 03:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There exists so many rules for openings, that my first three chapters have been rewritten (including long after the manuscript was finished) to the point I have many great starts that can lead into a multitude of other books--but not helping with this one.  The first line to the first five pages (some agents actually only want the 1st five pgs) and all the inbetween; however, how to decide which one is the right one for this particular manuscript is enough to rip out hair, or light candles to every entity hoping one will listen.  I do agree with the tone being set for the entire work, which is how I finally waded through the sludge of numerous openings.  Though my heroine is a cynical modern creating quite a few laugh-out-loud scenes and in love with a not so nice here, the undertone needed to remain dark, or the reader would never 'feel' dread when lethal beings were 'closing in'.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There exists so many rules for openings, that my first three chapters have been rewritten (including long after the manuscript was finished) to the point I have many great starts that can lead into a multitude of other books&#8211;but not helping with this one.  The first line to the first five pages (some agents actually only want the 1st five pgs) and all the inbetween; however, how to decide which one is the right one for this particular manuscript is enough to rip out hair, or light candles to every entity hoping one will listen.  I do agree with the tone being set for the entire work, which is how I finally waded through the sludge of numerous openings.  Though my heroine is a cynical modern creating quite a few laugh-out-loud scenes and in love with a not so nice here, the undertone needed to remain dark, or the reader would never &#8216;feel&#8217; dread when lethal beings were &#8216;closing in&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: kateelliott</title>
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		<dc:creator>kateelliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 01:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GeTs</description>
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		<title>By: kateelliott</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 01:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gest moved in which direction?

Yeah, there's the whole aspect of finding a starting point - as others have said - that allows me/you the writer into the story, and gets things going, as opposed to the actual beginning of the book that you may settle on once you are revising.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gest moved in which direction?</p>
<p>Yeah, there&#8217;s the whole aspect of finding a starting point - as others have said - that allows me/you the writer into the story, and gets things going, as opposed to the actual beginning of the book that you may settle on once you are revising.</p>
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		<title>By: Constance Ash</title>
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		<dc:creator>Constance Ash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2006 00:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever I've started with gets moved further back, once the first 3 chapters are written.  Same with shorter fiction and with non-fiction too.

The point of the starting point, at least for some writers, is -- &lt;em&gt;starting&lt;/em&gt;.

But the pov and the location and the tone are there and they do not change.

Love, C.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever I&#8217;ve started with gets moved further back, once the first 3 chapters are written.  Same with shorter fiction and with non-fiction too.</p>
<p>The point of the starting point, at least for some writers, is &#8212; <em>starting</em>.</p>
<p>But the pov and the location and the tone are there and they do not change.</p>
<p>Love, C.</p>
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