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		<title>By: Kate Elliott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 17:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carol,  thank you so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carol,  thank you so much.</p>
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		<title>By: Carol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 02:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kate, I just finished Shadow gate, just brilliant. Then I remembered that I can now read this post! I think you did a great job of protraying the different struggles and conflicts we all face, on a large, external scale (war, social conflicts, etc) and also on a more personal, internal level, for each character. What I really like is how each character seems so human, they don't seem black or white (maybe a few do, the more "evil" ones who we havent gotten to know at all), but all the primary characters, and the secondary ones have very real traits, and have to overcome their own obstacles, as well as living in a society that is facing a huge upheavel, and also dealing with new aspects of a changing world (outlanders moving in, adapting cultural/social beliefs to fit in...this is something I deal with in all my travels with work!).
Anyway, great book! I could relate to it on many levels, and most importantly enjoyed the tale, even in the grim, darker parts. Good job!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kate, I just finished Shadow gate, just brilliant. Then I remembered that I can now read this post! I think you did a great job of protraying the different struggles and conflicts we all face, on a large, external scale (war, social conflicts, etc) and also on a more personal, internal level, for each character. What I really like is how each character seems so human, they don&#8217;t seem black or white (maybe a few do, the more &#8220;evil&#8221; ones who we havent gotten to know at all), but all the primary characters, and the secondary ones have very real traits, and have to overcome their own obstacles, as well as living in a society that is facing a huge upheavel, and also dealing with new aspects of a changing world (outlanders moving in, adapting cultural/social beliefs to fit in&#8230;this is something I deal with in all my travels with work!).<br />
Anyway, great book! I could relate to it on many levels, and most importantly enjoyed the tale, even in the grim, darker parts. Good job!!</p>
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		<title>By: Kate Elliott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 02:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Foz,

thanks.  The Kirya part especially was difficult to write besides that the novel is wrapped around that subplot, I also just wanted to try to portray the reality of what many have suffered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Foz,</p>
<p>thanks.  The Kirya part especially was difficult to write besides that the novel is wrapped around that subplot, I also just wanted to try to portray the reality of what many have suffered.</p>
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		<title>By: Kate Elliott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate Elliott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 02:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Natalie

thank you for your comments.  I appreciate especially your comments about characterization;  I am trying to show a range of human behavior, and I can never entirely be sure I am succeeding.

Balancing pacing vs. complexity is always a struggle for me.  I'm always working on it!

I'd be interested in hearing what you felt were the less relevant parts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Natalie</p>
<p>thank you for your comments.  I appreciate especially your comments about characterization;  I am trying to show a range of human behavior, and I can never entirely be sure I am succeeding.</p>
<p>Balancing pacing vs. complexity is always a struggle for me.  I&#8217;m always working on it!</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be interested in hearing what you felt were the less relevant parts.</p>
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		<title>By: Foz Meadows</title>
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		<dc:creator>Foz Meadows</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 05:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm nearly finished Shadow Gate, and loving it. Spirit Gate was excellently confusing in the way first volumes of new fantasy always are - that is, events have been set in motion, but without our full comprehension. Particularly, I'm enjoying the vindication I felt reading Spirit Gate, that far more was going on than I could actually detect; and more, that while said vindication has come in the second volume, mystery enough for the next five books has nonetheless been retained.

Without resorting to spoilers, Kirya's story was heartbreaking. I was reading it before my husband and I had to leave for the train, and when he tapped me on the arm to &lt;em&gt;come, get up,&lt;/em&gt; I was literally trembling. 

Culturally, I love delving into the Hundred - it's such a skillful amalgam of Earth history, magic and newness that I can't assume behavioural cornerstones as I could, say, when reading a story based on feudal Europe. It's refreshingly, well...refreshing. 

Plus and also? Giant eagles &lt;em&gt;rock&lt;/em&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m nearly finished Shadow Gate, and loving it. Spirit Gate was excellently confusing in the way first volumes of new fantasy always are - that is, events have been set in motion, but without our full comprehension. Particularly, I&#8217;m enjoying the vindication I felt reading Spirit Gate, that far more was going on than I could actually detect; and more, that while said vindication has come in the second volume, mystery enough for the next five books has nonetheless been retained.</p>
<p>Without resorting to spoilers, Kirya&#8217;s story was heartbreaking. I was reading it before my husband and I had to leave for the train, and when he tapped me on the arm to <em>come, get up,</em> I was literally trembling. </p>
<p>Culturally, I love delving into the Hundred - it&#8217;s such a skillful amalgam of Earth history, magic and newness that I can&#8217;t assume behavioural cornerstones as I could, say, when reading a story based on feudal Europe. It&#8217;s refreshingly, well&#8230;refreshing. </p>
<p>Plus and also? Giant eagles <em>rock</em>.</p>
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		<title>By: Natalie Morcos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Natalie Morcos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 23:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I like about Kate Elliott as an author, is her brutal honesty in portraying her alternative worlds. 

There are some scenes that provoke disgust, pain, pure hatred and a very wide array of human emotions. All the characters are extremely well created, they have a realistic depth, even hidden aspects to their personalities that we will probably not see in the story. Many characters are lovable, others are not. Even the attractive ones can become repulsive in later books and vice versa. 

The changing nature of those people based on their interactions is the winning formula here. Also, the mystery aura surrounding some of the characters. 

Another interesting aspect, is how the human psyche is treated. From the darkest most animalistic nature of mankind to the noble and self-sacrificing one. Some people are pitch black others are white, yet others are a varying shades of gray.   

To sum it up, this a very excellent series. Even if it does have a deadly slow pace in some of the less relevant parts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I like about Kate Elliott as an author, is her brutal honesty in portraying her alternative worlds. </p>
<p>There are some scenes that provoke disgust, pain, pure hatred and a very wide array of human emotions. All the characters are extremely well created, they have a realistic depth, even hidden aspects to their personalities that we will probably not see in the story. Many characters are lovable, others are not. Even the attractive ones can become repulsive in later books and vice versa. </p>
<p>The changing nature of those people based on their interactions is the winning formula here. Also, the mystery aura surrounding some of the characters. </p>
<p>Another interesting aspect, is how the human psyche is treated. From the darkest most animalistic nature of mankind to the noble and self-sacrificing one. Some people are pitch black others are white, yet others are a varying shades of gray.   </p>
<p>To sum it up, this a very excellent series. Even if it does have a deadly slow pace in some of the less relevant parts.</p>
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		<title>By: fritz freiheit.com » Friday link dump</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 20:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Mary Frey Osmanski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary Frey Osmanski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 10:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've decided that reading this when I'm not yet to page 100 in the book was a mistake -- not because of spoilers, but because there's just too many things which you're discussing that I haven't encountered yet.

At least your conversation will still be here for me to get more out of later on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve decided that reading this when I&#8217;m not yet to page 100 in the book was a mistake &#8212; not because of spoilers, but because there&#8217;s just too many things which you&#8217;re discussing that I haven&#8217;t encountered yet.</p>
<p>At least your conversation will still be here for me to get more out of later on.</p>
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		<title>By: Lois Tilton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lois Tilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 21:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That's an interesting point about women writing war.  I think all the women fantasy authors here have written about war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s an interesting point about women writing war.  I think all the women fantasy authors here have written about war.</p>
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